{"id":119,"date":"2011-06-18T12:04:43","date_gmt":"2011-06-18T16:04:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.acheron-guild.com\/zosima\/?page_id=119"},"modified":"2011-06-21T16:28:42","modified_gmt":"2011-06-21T20:28:42","slug":"we-would-like-to-raid","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/www.acheron-guild.com\/zosima\/guild-relations-archive\/raiding-guides\/we-would-like-to-raid\/","title":{"rendered":"We would like to raid"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>Copied from the original posted by Calianna:<br \/>\n.<br \/>\n.<br \/>\n.<br \/>\nThis  is a something from our guild forums that I thought people might  find  useful. We use it as a starting point for discussions with people  about  why they aren&#8217;t raiding or why their application was denied.  Please feel  free to use\/modify it however you see fit.This is a public service message a community (non-raiding) officer.<\/p>\n<p>The  purpose of this post is to be brutally honest. If you were  referred to  this page, there is a reason. The reason is not because  someone doesn&#8217;t  like you. It&#8217;s not because someone is making fun of  you. Someone may  have referred you here because of gear, play style or  attitude (or some  of each). Ultimately, you were referred here because  someone wants you  to be successful.<\/p>\n<p>Gear issues<br \/>\nI expect that most people that  are referred to this post are going to  be referred because of gear. Gear  is a tough issue. The best place to  get gear is raids and high  level\/heroic instances. The best gear comes  from the toughest  raids\/instances. But, if you aren&#8217;t well geared, you  can&#8217;t be  successful. You won&#8217;t be able to heal enough, do enough damage  or take  enough damage.<\/p>\n<p>Any experienced player can take one look at your  equipment and know  how much work you&#8217;ve put into it. We know it&#8217;s hard;  we know it takes  money; we know it takes time. But if you aren&#8217;t willing  to work for  things you can get on your own, why would other people want  to put in  the time to make it easy for you? Here are some things you  can work on  improving.<\/p>\n<p>1) Get out of the greens! Take the time to  find out where good gear  for your class\/spec can be found and go get  it. Kaliban&#8217;s List (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wow-loot.com\/\">http:\/\/www.wow-loot.com\/<\/a>)   is a great resource for drops and quest loot. Don&#8217;t forget to consider   crafted items. If you like (or can at least tolerate) PVP, the rewards   can be a great way to improve your gear.<\/p>\n<p>2) Enchant it up! Talk to an enchanter to get your<br \/>\ncloak (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=16\">http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=16<\/a>),<br \/>\nchest (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=5\">http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=5<\/a>),<br \/>\nbracers (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=9\">http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=9<\/a>),<br \/>\ngloves (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=10\">http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=10<\/a>),<br \/>\nboots (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=8\">http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=8<\/a>) and<br \/>\nweapons (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;filter=sl=23:21:22:13:17\">http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?spells=11.333&amp;f &#8230; 1:22:13:17<\/a>) enchanted. You don&#8217;t have to get the best enchants, but get something.<\/p>\n<p>3)  Gem it up! You don&#8217;t need rares but you should have gems in all  slots.  Uncommon gems are almost free. There&#8217;s no excuse for empty gem  slots. If  you aren&#8217;t sure what you want\/need, many JC&#8217;s use the gem mod  which  makes it easy to look at what they can make.<\/p>\n<p>4) Don&#8217;t forget the extras! You can get enchants for<br \/>\nhead (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?items=15.-3&amp;filter=sl=1\">http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?items=15.-3&amp;filter=sl=1<\/a>),<br \/>\nshoulders (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?items=15.-3&amp;filter=sl=3\">http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?items=15.-3&amp;filter=sl=3<\/a>) and<br \/>\nlegs (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?items=15.-3&amp;filter=sl=7\">http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/?items=15.-3&amp;filter=sl=7<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Play issues<br \/>\nWe  want you to play your class\/spec to the best of your ability. If you   have been referred here because of play issues, don&#8217;t bother taking   offense. You may think what you want about the person that referred you   here, but realize they did it because they want to see you improve.   Perhaps you have problems with not paying attention, forgetting your   role in the raid\/group, overhealing\/underhealing, pulling aggro, not   holding aggro or some other aspect of playing your class. There are more   problems than I could possibly cover so I hope you know why you were   referred to this section. Here are some places to check to help improve   any play issues you may have.<\/p>\n<p>1) Read the guild forums. Our  forums have stickies with valuable  information about playing each class.  If you don&#8217;t find what you are  looking for, try the WoW forums (<a href=\"http:\/\/forums.worldofwarcraft.com\/index.html?sid=1\">http:\/\/forums.worldofwarcraft.com\/index.html?sid=1<\/a>).<br \/>\n2)  Ask around. There is someone in the guild (or at least on the  server)  who plays your particular class\/spec well. Talk to them in-game  to find  out what they are doing different and how you might improve.<br \/>\n3) If  you don&#8217;t find what you need, post in your class forum and ask  for some  resources. I would start with the guild forums, then move to  the WoW  forums if you need more.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>Behavior issues<br \/>\nIf you have been sent here because of behavior, first  of all, I&#8217;m glad  you&#8217;re still reading. It is much easier to dismiss  someone who says you  need to work on your behavior and attitude than it  is to do something  about it. The first and most important thing that all  of us can do,  however, is to take a deep breath and remember that this  is a game.  It&#8217;s not that serious. We are all guilty of taking it a  little too  seriously sometimes. When your attitude needs work, here are  some  things to consider:1) Don&#8217;t be selfish! Everyone likes  loot. No one (at least in this  guild) likes people who only care about  loot. We like to have fun. We  have a few rules about looting to make  sure that people get a fair  shot. When you see something shiny that you  want, stop and think  (objectively if possible) if you are the most  deserving. If you&#8217;re not  sure, ask if other people are ok with you  rolling. Congratulate others  when they roll higher (even if you think  you deserve it a little more).<\/p>\n<p>2) Help! Offer help to others when  you can. Ask for help when you  need it. Recognize that you won&#8217;t always  get help. As I mentioned  before, we are more likely to help people who  are putting in the  effort.<\/p>\n<p>3) Fun vs serious. There is definitely  a time and a place for each.  In a group of friends, it can be extremely  funny to pull the Inciter  (and the entire room). In a raid (or pug  group), intentionally causing a  wipe can result in a boot from the raid  (or worse). If you are in  doubt about whether others would find  something funny, it&#8217;s probably  best to refrain.<\/p>\n<p>4) Stop  complaining! No one likes a whiner. If you&#8217;re unhappy about  something,  feel free to share, but offer some solutions. We all vent  occasionally  and it&#8217;s fine for you to do that too, just make sure to  state that fact.  If you are unhappy and you want something fixed, start  some discussion  about how to improve the situation. If you want to  just vent about  something, go for it, but perhaps prelude it with, &#8220;I  need to vent&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>5)  Behavior and attitude issues are often perception issues.   Misunderstandings are common in an environment where you only see   actions and text. You don&#8217;t have the benefit of body language and facial   expressions. Often, the things you say or do are not taken the way you   expect.<\/p>\n<p>Other issues<br \/>\n1) Read the Ops manual (even though it&#8217;s wildly out of date right now).<br \/>\n2) Make sure you have all required mods.<br \/>\n3) Check the Ops forums every once in a while.<br \/>\n4)  Be prepared. Have any consumables you might need, have all the right   gear, get quests in advance and be repaired. Don&#8217;t make others wait on   you.<br \/>\n5) Many people will be referred here because they wanted to raid  and  were told no for one reason or another. It&#8217;s not always about gear,   ability or attitude. It may be because of class composition, because   someone else is getting a chance to raid that night or something else.   The bottom line is that the officers try very hard to make everyone   happy and still keep the raids successful. If you are unhappy with one   of these decisions, wait a little bit and try to think through why it   happened. If you aren&#8217;t sure, ask the raid leader. Ask tough questions   even though you may not really like the answers. Find out what you can   do to get invited to the next raid.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><div style=\"color: #089ade; margin: auto; width: 90%; padding: 0; background: url(http:\/\/www.acheron-guild.com\/zosima\/wp-content\/plugins\/wow-blockquotes\/tr.gif) no-repeat right top;\"><div style=\"margin: 0; padding: 0; background: url(http:\/\/www.acheron-guild.com\/zosima\/wp-content\/plugins\/wow-blockquotes\/tl.gif) no-repeat left top; position: relative; right: 10px;\"><div style=\"margin: 0px; padding: 0; background: url(http:\/\/www.acheron-guild.com\/zosima\/wp-content\/plugins\/wow-blockquotes\/br.gif) no-repeat right bottom; position: relative; top: 13px; left: 10px;\"><div style=\"margin: 0; padding: 0; background: url(http:\/\/www.acheron-guild.com\/zosima\/wp-content\/plugins\/wow-blockquotes\/bl.gif) no-repeat left bottom; position: relative; right: 10px;\"><div style=\"margin: 0; padding: 5px 10px;\"><\/div>\n<div>Eyonix:Great job! Some feedback below, if you&#8217;re interested.<\/p>\n<p>Under  &#8220;Attitude Issues&#8221;, I&#8217;d personally acknowledge that you  recognize the  attitude issue could stem from perception. I&#8217;d want to  emphasize the  power of perception and inform the reader that though the  attitude issue  could be one of perception, it still has the potential  to be just as  damaging. Suggest ways for one to improve the way they  are perceived as  well, explaining (perhaps reminding) them of the  differences in  communication and interaction between real life and the  internet (World  of Warcraft, specifically).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;3) Fun vs serious. There is definitely a time and a place for each.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d  elaborate here by giving at least one example for appropriate  and  inappropriate. Though it may not seem like examples are needed,  people  reading this message for reasons related to their attitude could  very  likely be missing something that is so seemingly obvious to  everyone  else and may not be able identify with the above statement  completely.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly,  I&#8217;d personally choose a word other than &#8220;attitude&#8221;. Perhaps  behavior.  Don&#8217;t underestimate the power of a single word and the affect  it could  have on someone.<\/p>\n<p>All in all though &#8211; completely approve your message, and very much admire your approach. <\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"clear\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Copied from the original posted by Calianna: . . . This is a something from our guild forums that I thought people might find useful. 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